View Full Version : una patch bella corposa
θ in arrivo una patch bella succosa, non so quando, ma al momento non la scarica con l'updater.
le features sono queste:
New Features
General
Weapon combos in hotbar: Added the ability to set up dual weapon, weapon & shield, or weapon & torch combos in the hotbar. Clicking the hotbar button for a weapon you already have equipped will unequip it.
Camera Changes: Weve made a series of camera changes to this version:
o New options for adjusting sensitivity for controlling the camera by keyboard, mouse, and edge of screen.
o Chase Cam adjusted to work more like NWN1.
o In free cam mode, the arrow keys now pan the camera, and holding down CTRL will zoom and yaw the camera.
o Added bindable keyboard key for mouse look / camera control. This mimics functionality of pressing down the middle mouse button for those without a middle mouse button.
Graphics Optimizations: A number of new graphics optimizations have been added:
o Anti-Aliasing Support: Anti-aliasing is now supported and can be enabled in the Options Menu. Please note: This could significantly affect frame rate, depending on your hardware.
o Shadow Rendering: Shadow rendering speed has been improved.
o Tree Rendering: Speed improvements to the rendering of trees.
o Water Rendering: Speed improvements to how water is rendered by the engine.
New Options:
o Buy/Sell Confirmation: You can now turn off the buy/sell confirmation dialog.
o Options menu has been reorganized to support many new camera control options.
o You can now change keybindings in game.
Database Support:
o The database script functions from NWN1 have been re-enabled. They are now significantly faster in many cases.
Multiplayer
Improved /t style chat.
DM Client
Added initial support for hotbar buttons and context menus.
Added in party bar. It will only list the connected players in the game and not who is in your faction.
You can now hover over menu items in the Chooser instead of having to click on them first.
Very Easy difficulty option has been restored.
The DM chat channel is once again available via the /dm prefix.
Scripting
EffectWildshape() New function for Wildshape effect.
GetEncumbranceState () - Added script function to get the encumbrance state of a given player
GetPlayerCreatureExamineTarget() - Added script function to get the current creature examine target for a player
PackCampaignDatabase() A new database feature to NWN2, this will pack the campaign database and purge deleted records from a database.
GetPlayerTargetObject() New script function to get the current selected target object for a given player.
UnlinkDoor() New script command to turn an area transition door into a normal door.
Database support has been added, including new PackCampaignDatabase() function.
Toolset
Added a load screen image previewer.
Added item icon previewer.
Area names and tags now default to the areas file name for new areas.
The spell tab now shows multiple instances of spells, so creatures can have multiple instances of a spell with different metamagic types.
Right-clicking while placing tiles now rotates the tile.
The first column and row of the 2DA viewer are now pinned, making it easier to use.
Changes on item blueprints will now be propagated to items in creature or placeable inventories, or that are equipped on creatures.
Added new option to the File menu that allows the user to compile only currently open scripts.
There is a new panel in the script editor that allows the user to insert scripts from the NWN2Toolset\Templates folder into the current script.
Script search functionality changed to bring up all results in one result window and the user can double-click to open up that search result.
Item cost calculations added to the item properties.
New visual style.
Doors now have a flag that allows them to render an invisible area transition (aka an invisible "black door.") This is adjustable in the toolset. This is to address concerns with the black area behind open doors and how silly it looked on open gates in the middle of Neverwinter, etc.
When users enter a string ref, they can also check a box to say that the string ref is from the custom file and the string returned will be from that file instead of the main .tlk table.
Feminine versions of strings are now editable.
Hex values can now be used as string references within 2DAs. This makes it easier to use custom TLK files with 2DAs.
The script editor runs faster and uses less memory.
molto utili sono le preview delle immagini del toolset e il dm client notevolmente migliorato, gli spell al momento non li ho guardati
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Bug Fixes
General
Animal Companions, Familiars, and Summoned Creatures are now unsummoned when a roster member is being despawned. This will address problems where companions can become familiars on transitions.
Some minor adjustments to the pathing system to prevent characters from being put into illegal areas.
Split out Armored Caster feat into class specific feats for Bards and Warlocks to properly apply spell failure percentages. This will allow users who add new classes to give them specific armored casting ability easily.
Some minor fixes to drop shadow rendering.
The debug DirectX check has been removed some users had problems running the game, even without the DirectX SDK being installed.
The game would crash when a module with more than 16,000 objects was loaded.
Fixed a memory leak related to grass that would occur in certain areas.
Multiplayer
Fixed issue when a player was resurrected by another player, the respawn button would stay up on their screen, and could be used to restore life and remove effects.
DM Client
Added larger + buttons for the Chooser and Creator to make them easier to click on.
Fixed some issues with keymapping.
Player list is used instead of the party list when displaying party members on the minimap and areamap.
DMs can now area transition while possessing something and the entire faction doesnt come with them.
Fixed issue with trying to possess a creature in a different area than the one the DM is currently standing in.
Fixed mouse action target for Dungeon Masters, so they don't start conversations with everyone. Also fixed highlight, so they can't always highlight themselves.
DM can now move around while game is paused.
Moved feats granted to a DM character from being hard-coded to a new flag in the feat.2da, "DMFeat". If it's marked as 0, the DM doesn't get it; as 1, he does.
NWN database bug: Variables names are now properly truncated to 32 characters in all cases.
Effects/Spells
If weapon trails are disabled in the options menu, hit and parry visuals are disabled as well.
Character validation was not taking Spellcasting Prodigy into account for a number of spells wizards learn at first level.
You no longer get max spells after unequipping an ability boost item, then an extra spell slot item. Also, changed extra spell slot items so that they only grant extra spell slots if you are capable of casting spells of that level.
Neutralize Poison should not remove Disease and Ability Decrease effects.
Lowered Frenzy damage to 6 per round.
You can no longer recover traps with DC 20 or higher if you do not have the Trapfinding feat. If you try to disarm or recover a DC 20+ trap without Trapfinding, you will receive feedback that success is never possible; it is still possible to suffer a critical failure and have the trap go off on you. You can still flag, examine, and set a trap of any DC without Trapfinding; you can also always disarm or recover a trap you set yourself.
EffectShareDamage() was not actually applying damage to the caster.
Some fixes to global scripts on how spells affect NPCs, etc., in Hardcore mode.
Finger of Death affects players in multiplayer mode now.
Heal spells no longer call a touch attack when cast on undead.
The Mass Inflict Line of spells now properly call a will save instead of a Fort save.
The Mass Inflict Line of spells have now been updated to have the same behavior as Mass Inflict Light Wounds in regards to target discrimination and undead.
Mass Inflict Light Wounds no longer harms hostile undead. Neither will it heal them. The healing effect is only applied to friendly undead.
Casting Mage Armor on a character who already has Improved Mage Armor applied will no longer remove the stronger spell.
Improved Mage Armor now correctly provides +6 AC rather than +8.
The duration on Tymoras Smile has been corrected.
The spells Foundation of Stone, Body of Sun, Jagged Tooth, Tortoise Shell, Swamp Lung, Storm Avatar, and Nature's Avatar now properly apply their metamagic abilities.
Tymora's Smile is now self-cast only.
Crafting wands, potions, and scrolls was not working for many spells. All spells should now craft properly.
Soothing Light will now auto-cast when selected.
Guarding the Lord will now only target other creatures.
Warlock Darkness now has the same targeting UI as arcane Darkness.
Mass Heal now has a range of "close."
The Mass Cure line of spells now uniformly have a range of "close."
Old behavior for Bigby's 3 was causing some creatures to become paralyzed rather than immobilized in order to simulate grappling. This allowed them a chance to break out on a will save. The paralysis effect has been replaced with an immobilization effect.
Prismatic Spray was always petrifying, rather than applying a random effect. This is fixed.
Web and Greater Shadow Conjuration/Web now have the same targeting UI.
Greater Fireburst will no longer damage the caster on hardcore difficulty.
Fireburst will no longer harm the caster.
Iron Horn now properly uses a cone shape instead of a sphere.
Foundation of stone was calculating its duration in seconds rather than rounds. This has been fixed.
Magic Fang and Greater Magic Fang now can be applied to any animal, beast, or vermin. This includes wildshaped druids.
Missile Storm will no longer target friendlies on hardcore mode.
Bombardment now knocks down targets on a failed save.
Blade Barrier now plays a species specific blood spray when it damages a target.
Destruction now checks the target for death immunity.
Items
Changed Holy Avenger bonus damage from 1d6 to 2d6 vs. evil.
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Scripting
AttemptToDisarmTrap() - Returns FALSE if character cannot path to trap instead of assuming they don't have the skill points to do so.
GetArmorRank - Returns whether an equipped item is ARMOR_RANK_NONE, _LIGHT, _MEDIUM, or _HEAVY
GetSpellLevel() wasnt taking cleric domains into account. This has been fixed.
GetWeaponType() Lets Keen Edge spell also affect piercing weapons.
TalentSpellFilter() This has been standardized in regards to Keen Edge and Weapon of Impact.
Added script command gr_character_xml run from console that will export character data in XML format to the log.
Fixed X2_inc_switches constant that was causing the override spellscript and the tagbased script prefix to overwrite each other.
NPC casters can no longer affect themselves with AOE spells in Hardcore+ difficulty
NPCs of non-opposed factions can no longer affect each other with AOE spells in Hardcore+ difficulty
Added additional effects and fixed parameter listing for ga_effect.
Crafting
'Medalion of Thought' recipe now gives that item instead of the 'Talisman of Pure Evil'
The 'Armor of Arrow Deflection' recipe now gives the correct effect and not 'Spell Specialization: Abjuration' on the Armor enchanted
'Invulnerable Armor' recipe now give Damage Reduction Effect
'Posion Weapon' recipe now give poison effect
The 'Armor of Spell Resistance' recipes now gives spell resistance effect.
Crafted wands, and scrolls now give the correct class restrictions based on class spell lists.
Wands and potions now take into account the class and level of the caster for determining if the max spell level is surpasses instead of using the innate level of a spell.
removed item cast at item restriction for spell storing devices (wands, potions, scrolls)
Reduced cost of 0 level spells for wands, potions, and scrolls by half
Added warlock darkness crafting recipes for Gold Filigree Charm and Infernal Focus
Number of charges for newly crafted wand now defaults to 50.
Interface
Fixed a bug where screen edge turning was frame rate dependent, making the camera behave differently based on graphics settings or area.
Fixed a few minor bugs with mouse selection.
Save game name will now show up properly when overwriting savegames.
Fixed issue where gaining bonus feats from items were not causing a refresh of the character sheet.
The character ψ has been added to our fonts.
Context Menu Delay slider and Weapon trail Option are now properly saved and read in correctly.
You can no longer resize on of the multiplayer chat windows offscreen.
You can now click past feat selection if you have no feats to select. You lose that feat pick permanently. This was added so characters with low stats in core abilities could process through level up.
Toolset
Turning off fog along with the use area far plane option now works correctly, and will render the area up to the far plane specified in the Graphics section of the Options screen.
Oriented billboards in visual effects will now render correctly in the toolset.
Weapon scaling now looks correct in the toolset.
Fixed a bug with the script and conversation search windows stealing focus.
Fixed a bug with changes to spells not getting saved if the active tab was changed before changes were applied.
Level 9 spells are now saved correctly for creatures.
Font preferences are now saved correctly.
Fixed a bug where docking windows would snap closed if a drop-down box was used while they were shown.
Reduction in memory pre-allocation by half. This should address some customer reported issues with the toolset crashing on load.
Some improvements to script editor speed and reductions in memory usage.
Fixed a bug where placed instances of stores weren't copying the "infinite" flag for items.
Fixed memory leak when erasing grass.
Fixed issue for non-English versions where some required toolset preferences were not being loaded.
Module variables are now displayed under the Scripts category.
Fixed bug where turning off light spheres would turn off sound spheres.
Focus wouldnt change properly when clicking on the propertygrid or the blueprint view. Fixed.
Fixed crash when trying to modify prefabs in the universal blueprint changer.
Fix for an exception that could be thrown if a journal was modified from code (like a plugin.)
Fixed inability to modify camera orientation, Orientation has been re-enabled.
Some fixes to toolset memory management to improve stability.
Floating windows that are offscreen will be moved back onscreen on startup.
Newly-created blueprints will have their template property set to the same name as the blueprint.
Fixed a bug where creating new item blueprints, assigning them to a creature or placeable, and then immediately placing the creature or placeable would result in the item having incorrect properties.
Fixed a bug in the script editor where certain NWN-specific data types would confuse the parameter info display.
Using the Find All button in the script search window now displays all results in a popup window. Users can select the matching script/line they want to view.
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An estimated value for the cost of an item (before appraise rolls etc) has been added to the properties of items.
Updated look and feel of the tab controls.
Fixed a bug with the Save button in the world map editor. It will no longer corrupt map images.
Original Campaign Fixes Possible Spoilers Below!
Global
More NPCs will drop poisons now.
Companions will now no longer stop following the player after certain cutscenes.
Poisons can be purchased from Uncus or Caelryna in Crossroad Keep.
Players can no longer encumber companions to exploit certain battles in the game.
Fixed some faulty condition checks in Bevils conversation in Crossroad Keep.
Fixed a bug in the Crossroad Keep report that showed the Walls as ruined when they have been upgraded.
Added bonuses to Land and Road Security when upgrading Walls, Towers and surrounding areas in Crossroad Keep.
Act 1:
Bishop takes the two weapon fighting path of rangers despite longbow feats and constant references to arrows. This has been fixed; the game will scan your package for valid Ranger Combat Styles (when you become a level 2 ranger) and picks that. If you dont have one in your package, it defaults to dual-wield.
Fixed quest-breaker where player can not turn in Lewy's hog quest if player committed a triple cross.
Mind affecting spells should no longer freeze the Harvest Brawl.
Archery Competition now more multiplayer friendly.
Fixed issue where stripped items in the tutorial were not being returned in West Harbor.
Script changes to the following to address the "Black Screen" issue where cutscenes would fail to fire (this is in addition to the code fix):
o Wheat Field battle in West Harbor
o Casavir's intro in Old Owl Well
o Construct intro when raiding Githyanki Hideout
o Shandra's scenes late in Act 1
o Bishop's scenes in Ember
Fixed problem with Georg in West Harbor where he could occasionally get into a state where his dialog wouldn't start up.
Fixed the lingering sound effects, fires, and bodies from the raid on West Harbor.
Fixed issue where Bevil was in a "Stand your ground" state after recovering the shard in West Harbor.
Galen will now talk to you in Fort Locke even if you haven't spoken with Marshal Cormick yet.
Added a couple obsidian gems in Highcliff module so crafters can create +1 weapons.
Fixed issue where Commander Tann would have nothing to say in some circumstances.
Fixed quest break in the Highcliff graveyard if player pulled lever before speaking to Tann.
Moved zombie spawns away from the portcullis near the Shadow Priest in the crypt near Fort Locke so they and companions don't aggro each other through the gate.
Fixed issue where Tann was not being removed from the party in a multiplayer game
Fixed zombies that were getting into a perpetually stuck state in Highcliff castle ruins. Occasionally, the zombies around the shadow priest would never attack or react.
Made a script change to how Elanee is spawned during her intro to fix a bug where she would sometimes fail to appear.
Fixed issue where players would occasionally get stuck on the boat ride to Neverwinter city.
Fixed many creatures who were improperly marked as non-disarmable.
Fixed Karina sticking around Old Owl Well when she should have returned to Neverwinter.
Ironfist Clanhold journal update now occurs when picking up the Gauntlets of Ironfist.
Fixed World Map Transitions in Highcliff and Casavir's intro that required the player to drive into them rather than being activated on clicking.
Fixed issue where Slaan was not being removed from the party in a multiplayer game.
Hlam in the Church of Tyr now heals the party properly when asked to.
Ophala should no longer talk about Leldon if the PC hasn't run into any of the Bounty Hunters yet.
Reduced framerate hit early in Githyanki Hideout due to number of spawns occurring.
Fixing Shadow Priest heads in Act 1 to use the proper head model.
Druid in wolf form in the Docks that opens up Elanee's Skymirror quest now properly shows up in Act 1 only.
Fixed issue where Grobnar and Casavir were not showing up in the Sunken Flagon when they should have.
Fixed incorrect journal entry appearing after defeating Ahja during the Sea Ghost quest.
Companions will now participate in the Githyanki attack on the flagon.
Fixed issue where some Githyanki would stick around after the Githyanki attack on the Flagon.
Fixed exploit where player can skip Zeeaire's confrontation cut scene using the inter-dimensional sphere.
Allowed player to take their shards back from Zeeaire's corpse. Player doesn't need to wait until they are automatically awarded back at the beginning of Act 2.
Fixed a dialog loop involving Bishop and female players after rescuing Shandra from Zeeaire.
Axle's house no longer accessible to City Watch players in acts 2 and 3.
Fixed issue where Bevil could not be recruited in Act 2.
Companions will no longer cast 'Keen Edge' and 'Weapon of Impact' on inappropriate weapons.
Fixed issue where companions would say they couldn't disarm a trap when they meant they couldn't path to one.
Fixed rare issue where spell breach was not removing more than one protection.
Fixed a number of errors with NPC descriptions.
Act 2:
Fixed an issue where if you choose to attack Pentin for not paying you for ore deposits, he wasnt turning hostile.
Dialogue with Qaggoth-yeg in Lord Tavoricks basement should fire more reliably now.
Gannish estate will show up on the Blacklake area map now when its supposed to.
Added an alternate solution to the fourth riff in the Battle of the Bards, since one of the pitches was ambiguous.
Fixed issue where loading a saved game during an encounter with an Animus elemental caused a different cutscene to fire.
Sand will no longer be marked as unselectable if he wasnt in the party and the player attempted to transition to Port Llast.
Fixed an issue where the outdoor statue of purification in Arvahn wasnt useable if the player killed everything in the area prior to using it.
Player can no longer leave Jerros Haven after completing the three paths in the approach and telling the guardian about them. This fixes a potential progression break.
Fixed a bug where Axles house would be unlocked in Act 2 even if the player was with the City Watch.
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If the player has recruited Guyven, he will receive experience points for discovering Ammon Jerros Haven.
Calindra will now leave the Alliance Arms Inn in Port Llast if you return after you have recruited her to Crossroad Keep.
Orlan will now leave West Harbor if you return after you have recruited him to Crossroad Keep.
Bevil will now leave West Harbor if you return after you have recruited him to Crossroad Keep.
Torio in Crossroad Keep will no longer talk about the Church and Tower before Act 3. Fixed quest-breaker where player can not turn in Lewy's hog quest if player committed a triple cross.
Mind affecting spells should no longer freeze the Harvest Brawl.
Archery Competition now more multiplayer friendly.
Fixed issue where stripped items in the tutorial were not being returned in West Harbor.
Script changes to the following to address the "Black Screen" issue where cutscenes would fail to fire (this is in addition to the code fix):
o Wheat Field battle in West Harbor
o Casavir's intro in Old Owl Well
o Construct intro when raiding Githyanki Hideout
o Shandra's scenes late in Act 1
o Bishop's scenes in Ember
Fixed problem with Georg in West Harbor where he could occasionally get into a state where his dialog wouldn't start up.
Fixed the lingering sound effects, fires, and bodies from the raid on West Harbor.
Fixed issue where Bevil was in a "Stand your ground" state after recovering the shard in West Harbor.
Galen will now talk to you in Fort Locke even if you haven't spoken with Marshal Cormick yet.
Added a couple obsidian gems in Highcliff module so crafters can create +1 weapons.
Fixed issue where Commander Tann would have nothing to say in some circumstances.
Fixed quest break in the Highcliff graveyard if player pulled lever before speaking to Tann.
Moved zombie spawns away from the portcullis near the Shadow Priest in the crypt near Fort Locke so they and companions don't aggro each other through the gate.
Fixed issue where Tann was not being removed from the party in a multiplayer game
Fixed zombies that were getting into a perpetually stuck state in Highcliff castle ruins. Occasionally, the zombies around the shadow priest would never attack or react.
Made a script change to how Elanee is spawned during her intro to fix a bug where she would sometimes fail to appear.
Fixed issue where players would occasionally get stuck on the boat ride to Neverwinter city.
Fixed many creatures who were improperly marked as non-disarmable.
Fixed Karina sticking around Old Owl Well when she should have returned to Neverwinter.
Ironfist Clanhold journal update now occurs when picking up the Gauntlets of Ironfist.
Fixed World Map Transitions in Highcliff and Casavir's intro that required the player to drive into them rather than being activated on clicking.
Fixed issue where Slaan was not being removed from the party in a multiplayer game.
Hlam in the Church of Tyr now heals the party properly when asked to.
Ophala should no longer talk about Leldon if the PC hasn't run into any of the Bounty Hunters yet.
Reduced framerate hit early in Githyanki Hideout due to number of spawns occurring.
Fixing Shadow Priest heads in Act 1 to use the proper head model.
Druid in wolf form in the Docks that opens up Elanee's Skymirror quest now properly shows up in Act 1 only.
Fixed issue where Grobnar and Casavir were not showing up in the Sunken Flagon when they should have.
Fixed incorrect journal entry appearing after defeating Ahja during the Sea Ghost quest.
Companions will now participate in the Githyanki attack on the flagon.
Fixed issue where some Githyanki would stick around after the Githyanki attack on the Flagon.
Fixed exploit where player can skip Zeeaire's confrontation cut scene using the inter-dimensional sphere.
Allowed player to take their shards back from Zeeaire's corpse. Player doesn't need to wait until they are automatically awarded back at the beginning of Act 2.
Fixed a dialog loop involving Bishop and female players after rescuing Shandra from Zeeaire.
Axle's house no longer accessible to City Watch players in acts 2 and 3.
Fixed issue where Bevil could not be recruited in Act 2.
Companions will no longer cast 'Keen Edge' and 'Weapon of Impact' on inappropriate weapons.
Fixed issue where companions would say they couldn't disarm a trap when they meant they couldn't path to one.
Fixed rare issue where spell breach was not removing more than one protection.
Fixed a number of errors with NPC descriptions.
Act 2:
Fixed an issue where if you choose to attack Pentin for not paying you for ore deposits, he wasnt turning hostile.
Dialogue with Qaggoth-yeg in Lord Tavoricks basement should fire more reliably now.
Gannish estate will show up on the Blacklake area map now when its supposed to.
Added an alternate solution to the fourth riff in the Battle of the Bards, since one of the pitches was ambiguous.
Fixed issue where loading a saved game during an encounter with an Animus elemental caused a different cutscene to fire.
Sand will no longer be marked as unselectable if he wasnt in the party and the player attempted to transition to Port Llast.
Fixed an issue where the outdoor statue of purification in Arvahn wasnt useable if the player killed everything in the area prior to using it.
Player can no longer leave Jerros Haven after completing the three paths in the approach and telling the guardian about them. This fixes a potential progression break.
Fixed a bug where Axles house would be unlocked in Act 2 even if the player was with the City Watch.
If the player has recruited Guyven, he will receive experience points for discovering Ammon Jerros Haven.
Calindra will now leave the Alliance Arms Inn in Port Llast if you return after you have recruited her to Crossroad Keep.
Orlan will now leave West Harbor if you return after you have recruited him to Crossroad Keep.
Bevil will now leave West Harbor if you return after you have recruited him to Crossroad Keep.
Torio in Crossroad Keep will no longer talk about the Church and Tower before Act 3.
Act 3:
Poisons will drop off of the Shadow Thieves in the Merchant Quarter.
Mephasm will now take the intended item for the blind sacrifice.
Minor improvements to some cutscenes in Act 3.
Added a workaround for a bug reported on the forums where Nolaloths Valley was not being revealed on the World Map.
If the player has recruited Guyven, he will receive experience points for discovering the Wendersnaven clearing.
Fixed Ivarrs Atonement and Path of the Holy quests so that they can be completed by talking to Ivarr after slaying Tholapsyx.
Fixed a problem with Veedle telling you there is more to build when you have already built everything.
Added a journal entry and XP awards for killing the three Shadow Reavers in the Merdelain Gauntlet.
Fixed an issue with the Wendersnaven cutscene not triggering correctly if you use a companion to loot the Journal of the Relentless Poet.
Fixed Light of Heavens Heal special ability so it will work properly.
Construct will no longer be in two places at once in Crossroad Keep after the Siege.
Fixed a conversation drop that happened at the beginning cutscene in the Merdelain Gauntlet if Elanee was not there.
Added theme music to the ending denouement sequences.
Mephasm will now give you an Infernal Bargaining epithet feat if you successfully bargain with him three times.
The Trial of the Sun Soul will no longer remove the players inventory.
Merdelain: Added Collision Sphere to more easily select portal object
Merdelain: Fixed Evil Ending combat AI
Merdelain: Removed latent spell sounds during game ending
Siamo sicuri che 'sto gioco l'abbiano testato per bene prima dell'uscita?
Perchè la sfilza di "Fixed bla bla" è veramente lunga.
Io rimango della mia idea, dovevano lasciarlo fare ancora alla Bioware -_-
brosio83
08/12/2006, 14:44
carino da parte loro :)
cmq è ovvio che nn l'hanno testato per bene prima dell'uscita, ma se avessero ritardato ancora un po' li avrebbero giustiziati.
noi avevamo bisogno di nwn2, loro avevano bisogno dei nostri soldi, ci hanno rifilato un placebo, e alla fine si sa che i placebo il più delle votle funzionano :)
Yukitopia
08/12/2006, 15:35
Siamo sicuri che 'sto gioco l'abbiano testato per bene prima dell'uscita?
Perchè la sfilza di "Fixed bla bla" è veramente lunga.
Io rimango della mia idea, dovevano lasciarlo fare ancora alla Bioware -_-
nessuno testa + un cazzo, cmq anche l'1 nudo e crudo aveva carenze nell'interfaccia/opzioni (non c'erano gli high res fonts per esempio) e bug vergognosi nel gameplay solo che nn vi ricordate.
mirko_meliamyn
08/12/2006, 15:38
fare un gioco perfetto in tutti i suoi dettagli è impossibile!! ben vengano questi accorgimenti!! Anzi... più ne trovano e meglio è!
ecco yuki mi hai levato le parole di bocca....
volevo modificare e hai fatto prima tu!
nn si ricordano quanti bug nn risolti che c'erano ancora in nwn1
brosio83
08/12/2006, 16:00
a due mesi dall'uscita di nwn2 la bioware sfornava la 1.68 per nwn :asd:
il che in realtà fa onore al merito alla bioware che ha seguito nwn per 4/5 anni
Nessun software è perfetto, d'altronde è scritto da uomini. Ciò non toglie che se si testassero un pò di più prima delle release, non sarebbe necessario aspettare 3 o 4 patch prima di avere un gioco decente (non sto parlando di un gioco in particolare, ma in generale).
Se ci fate caso la maggior parte dei giochi dedicati alle consoles hanno molti meno bug. Il motivo è semplice, una volta andato in gold e successivamente messo in commercio, non si può più patchare. Non vedo quale sarebbe il problema nel testare a fondo anche i giochi per PC. Ma il concetto si estende a tutto oramai, da Windows (per il quale bisogna aspettare sempre almeno un Service Pack) all'hardware (sempre più difetti, tipo le batterie della Sony).
E comunque non ricordo di patch così corpose per NWN, ma forse ricordo male.
mirko_meliamyn
08/12/2006, 17:28
è come se noi mettessimo up un server con poche aree per poi implementarle ;-)
t'ho dato una risposta :P
(di fatti si è pensato cosi, almeno iniziamo a giocare) ;-)
Yukitopia
08/12/2006, 17:50
Nessun software θ perfetto, d'altronde θ scritto da uomini. Ciς non toglie che se si testassero un pς di piω prima delle release, non sarebbe necessario aspettare 3 o 4 patch prima di avere un gioco decente (non sto parlando di un gioco in particolare, ma in generale).
Se ci fate caso la maggior parte dei giochi dedicati alle consoles hanno molti meno bug. Il motivo θ semplice, una volta andato in gold e successivamente messo in commercio, non si puς piω patchare. Non vedo quale sarebbe il problema nel testare a fondo anche i giochi per PC. Ma il concetto si estende a tutto oramai, da Windows (per il quale bisogna aspettare sempre almeno un Service Pack) all'hardware (sempre piω difetti, tipo le batterie della Sony).
E comunque non ricordo di patch cosμ corpose per NWN, ma forse ricordo male.
figa i tester costano!!
Figa la patch finale per nwn saranno stati almeno 60mega!! (senza contare l'infernale sistema di patch e spatch moltiplicate per la lingua
figa...
mirko_meliamyn
08/12/2006, 18:08
e sottolineo figa!!
forse nn si immagina quanti anni ci vuole per fare un gioco decente! booo :D
Yukitopia
08/12/2006, 18:39
infatti alla obsidian non c'è so ancora riusciti :ahsisi:
cmq molto piω buggato rispetto all'1... oltretutto bug nelle quest principali
"salva presto, salva spesso"
"ricordati di salvare spesso e in file diversi"
i consigli piω utili che potevano dare :look:
e sottolineo figa!!
forse nn si immagina quanti anni ci vuole per fare un gioco decente! booo :D
Probabilmente non lo immagino, ma ho giocato a giochi piω che decenti che all'uscita avevano si e no una manciata di bugs. Se una software house ci riesce perchθ l'altra non puς riuscirci? :dunno:
brosio83
08/12/2006, 22:22
ma poi sinceramente sticazzi :asd:
se hanno fatto un catttivo lavoro pagheranno le conseguenze...
mirko_meliamyn
08/12/2006, 22:53
quanto mi piace sta saggezza di bro hihihihi!
:rearbanana: proprio li se la prenderanno!!
ma cmq pure con bug io lo sposo sempre sto giochillo
brosio83
08/12/2006, 22:58
per ora, bug o non bug, mi pare un gran bel giochetto, sarà che è identico o quasi a nwn e a me nwn è piaciuto di brutto, comunque mi pare che abbiano fatto un bel lavoro a livello di gameplay, nn sono bug a preoccuparmi, quello che mi preoccupa è se si potrà o meno fare un pw oppure nwn2 sarà un gioco solo da single e al massimo per 3 o 4 arene ^^
mirko_meliamyn
08/12/2006, 23:04
di fatti il mio problema se supporterà aree con 4-5 e più persone mentre castano 2000 magie!! del resto posso vivere anche di bug!!
Ho vissuto per anni di bug nell' 1:
uno tra tutti che mi stavano sulle palle è quando transitavi in un'area e ti portava in una parte dove eri bloccato e nn potevi uscire.
oppure potevi superare una porta che nn potevi aprire se continuavi a correre nell'angolo della porta ( hahahahaha)
Darkside Sun
08/12/2006, 23:14
Ho vissuto per anni di bug nell' 1:
uno tra tutti che mi stavano sulle palle θ quando transitavi in un'area e ti portava in una parte dove eri bloccato e nn potevi uscire.
( hahahahaha)
:asd::asd::asd:
Mi hai fatto ricordare di una volta in cui sono dovuto andare a recuperare Lucich che era incastrato sopra un muro.....:asd:
Propheta
11/12/2006, 12:08
:asd::asd::asd:
Mi hai fatto ricordare di una volta in cui sono dovuto andare a recuperare Lucich che era incastrato sopra un muro.....:asd:
solo una volta?
si rimaneva incastrati pure nelle porte... fuori dai muri di brea... ecc
cmq se devo dire la mia... la main quest e assai figa.
Nella prossima espansione preparatevi a combattere tra i gizrai e i githianki :asd:
Yukitopia
11/12/2006, 13:06
ma sta patch quando esce?
boh, dicono solo che in inglese è disponibile, e nelle altre lingue è ancora in lavorazione
Propheta
11/12/2006, 13:48
ghgh non per niente ho preso la versione eng ^^
oh gonfio, basta istallarlo in inglese e il gioco θ fatto.
comuqnue sembra che a breve uscirΰ anche ITA.
Yukitopia
11/12/2006, 16:30
ghgh non per niente ho preso la versione eng ^^
cazzo dici? nwn2 ha l'installazione mutlilingue.... :drop:
di fatti il mio problema se supporterΰ aree con 4-5 e piω persone mentre castano 2000 magie!! del resto posso vivere anche di bug!!
Ho vissuto per anni di bug nell' 1:
uno tra tutti che mi stavano sulle palle θ quando transitavi in un'area e ti portava in una parte dove eri bloccato e nn potevi uscire.
oppure potevi superare una porta che nn potevi aprire se continuavi a correre nell'angolo della porta ( hahahahaha)
Basta ambientare in TdM reale, senza magie e il problema non esiste :whistle:
...Ok, Ok vado a nascondermi :theyareontome:
:drop:
Propheta
11/12/2006, 17:37
cazzo dici? nwn2 ha l'installazione mutlilingue.... :drop:
1. dico che caz mi pare.. sux
2. dico che la mia versione aveva di base solo inglese, francese e tedesco.
Infatti e la versione test upgradata comperando la key(prezzo bonus di 28 euri). Le lingue come l'italiano e lo spagnolo sono entrate in attivo con la release 1.0
Organizziamo una campagna ufficiale insieme? Cosi testiamo un po i nostri pc?
Yukitopia
11/12/2006, 18:28
1. dico che caz mi pare.. sux
2. dico che la mia versione aveva di base solo inglese, francese e tedesco.
Infatti e la versione test upgradata comperando la key(prezzo bonus di 28 euri). Le lingue come l'italiano e lo spagnolo sono entrate in attivo con la release 1.0
Organizziamo una campagna ufficiale insieme? Cosi testiamo un po i nostri pc?
infatti ti contraddici da solo, anche noi se vogliamo possiamo mettere su subito la patch disinstallando l'ita e mettendo l'inglisc, quindi il fatto che tu abbia una multilingua sega non ti dΰ nessun privilegio, cesso! :|
Darkside Sun
11/12/2006, 18:34
Basta ambientare in TdM reale, senza magie e il problema non esiste :whistle:
Quante volte avrai scritto sta frase sul forum? :asd:
E' il tuo inno di battaglia. Ti presenti sempre cosμ alle persone? :asd:
Propheta
11/12/2006, 18:57
infatti ti contraddici da solo, anche noi se vogliamo possiamo mettere su subito la patch disinstallando l'ita e mettendo l'inglisc, quindi il fatto che tu abbia una multilingua sega non ti dà nessun privilegio, cesso! :|
già ma devi reinstallare tutto e mettere tutte le patch
Yukitopia
11/12/2006, 22:55
capirai che sforzo
:ahsisi:
mirko_meliamyn
11/12/2006, 23:19
cmq mentre voi state chiacchierando c'θ chi sta lavorando :ph34r: !!
bravi bravi....!!
all'inizio tutti disponibili poi..........???!!
sai che siete??? tutti dei spammoni :D :D :D
Yukitopia
11/12/2006, 23:45
eh io stavo mappando il palasso ducale ma quando ricarico l'area mi crasha...
quindi ho dovuto cancellarla e rifarla
Propheta
12/12/2006, 11:55
gia gia
torna a lavorare
:asd:
Quante volte avrai scritto sta frase sul forum? :asd:
E' il tuo inno di battaglia. Ti presenti sempre cosμ alle persone? :asd:
Solo dopo essermi fumato l'erba pipa :cigar:
mirko_meliamyn
29/12/2006, 18:56
la patch è già attiva da un bel pò di giorni ed ha migliorato molte cose anche a livello di fluidità del gioco....
e finalmente quello che ci voleva
Yukitopia
29/12/2006, 19:48
non ho ancora avuto tempo di metterla...
Propheta
02/01/2007, 11:55
hai reinstallato in lingua madre albanese? ghgh
Insomma quanto manca al battesimo del server? :P
il discorso non è quanto manca, ma chi ci lavora?
chi ha accesso al forum privato sa che ci sono tante persone che si erano ovverte di lavorare per mappare, fare mostri e compagnia bella, ma effettivamente chi ha lavorato fin'ora sono solo 4 persone, ovvero meno di 1/3 .
in queste condizioni non è concepibile tirare su un server come si deve
:cry2::cry2::cry2: però se dici cosi mi sento inutile,io vorrei aiutarvi ma non ci capisco na cippa con sto tool set :drunk::help:
mirko_meliamyn
02/01/2007, 15:53
ciccio....
una cortesia...
mi mandi l'ultimo file che t'ho mandato (sperando nn l'hai cancellato)???
dentro c'erano le prigioni...
altrimenti devo ricominciare tutto da capo
ciccio....
una cortesia...
mi mandi l'ultimo file che t'ho mandato (sperando nn l'hai cancellato)???
dentro c'erano le prigioni...
altrimenti devo ricominciare tutto da capo
inviato al sacerdote su hotmail
mirko_meliamyn
02/01/2007, 20:42
nn è difficile...
e poi se si vuol fare qualcosa basta che la sera ci si trova su skype e si spiega cosa si deve fare e in che modo!!
che vi pensate che io sono capace di fare tutto?
anch'io son partito da 0 (diciamo) ed ho chiesto a Max...
se la volontà c'è di aiutare basta dirlo...
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